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That as far bass as his first election you know, there was a debate off the stimulus package was the first big legislation of his presidenciy. and he simply said to the republicans, you know what? i won. that was his response to objections about tax and spending, i won. he didn't want to have a debate we have seen that time and again on these issues. >> i always thought it was a huge mistake. two weeks after he had been inaugurated did that reported in the "wall street journal" at least that's the first place i saw it but then it was confirmed. his standoff admitted it, other people's standoff...