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And that's how i believe many of us are seeing this. >> congressman dent, isn't the bigger picture the freedom caucus or voters generally cannot get in, and if 2016 is continued democratic control of the white house, then all of this is immaterial and you never get what you want. isn't that your point? >> my point is this. we have a strong majority in the house, a strong republican majority. there are 54, not 60. 54 does not equal 60. barack obama is the president, like it or not. we have to deal with that political reality as it is, and i also say to my colleague david that the freedom caucus...

Tom price and westmothreland fr georgia. you're seeing an extraordinary act by paul ryan. i think he'll step forward. >> is it possible to pull together the main street republicans is there a speaker that can do that? >> it's tougher if it's not paul. i do. that doesn't mean there's not other people capable of it. this are. but i think he's unique in the house of representatives. there's two committees. and he has really driven the thought and he's a commanding presence plus he's a great guy to some of your comments. and i think he'll step up. >> we have seen speaker boehner

To get in. it's a time when hillary's not doing well, she's struggling against bernie sanders even in iowa and new hampshire. and he needs to get in sooner rather than later. so, you know, looking at both sides of that equation, we'll be watching this. it's friday, we'll be watching this over the weekend for sure. jon: how big a hand grenade would that be in the democratic tent, jamie, if all of a sudden the sitting vice president is challenging the former first lady, former secretary of state? >> it would be big, you know, with hillary struggling a lot of people are wondering who could be act...

>> what would you do? what would you do if you were president? what would you do? >> what i would do is i would say we're a very generous nation. we're a very charitable nation and i'm going to be as magnanimous as the american people. i'm going to give the children a chance and not send them back to death. if they're here under false pretenses and they have a comfortable life, i'm sorry, you have to get back, but i'm not going to send them back to death or torture or rape? >> let me ask you the question. nobody is heartless, i don't think. what do you do about the pattern that has been establ...

You can send them back and they can survive. these are little kids. think of the desperation these kids are under and their parents when they send them on this very treacherous chip to get here and then just to send them back where they will be killed or raped, why would we do that? >> what would you do? what would you do if you were president? what would you do? >> what i would do is i would say we're a very generous nation. we're a very charitable nation and i'm going to be as magnanimous as the american people. i'm going to give the children a chance and not send them back to death. if they...