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Binding policy for who should be separated and who shouldn't along the border. these are discretionary decisions being made from individual border agents. that's why you continue to see the stories and twitter threads bubble up with separations that appear to be dubiously justified because there's no rules even to this day. >> no rules. some of this problem is we're not getting information from the government. in other cases they don't have anything to tell us because there's no policy. when you do get information, is it accurate? is it truthful? can you believe what dhs and the other governme...

It was clear he knows he's a subject of the investigation, both for obstruction of justice and for the underlying russian collusion question. i also found it very interesting that he didn't have -- he wasn't willing to say the same thing about the sdny investigation. >> exactly. >> either because he hadn't been informed or didn't want to answer, i found that very telling. >> which is the michael cohen investigation. den dilanian, your read on all of this as you await the roger stone arrival there at the courthouse this afternoon. >> i think matt just made a very important point, which is that,...

That may not be, you know, hugely important. the supreme court did not post this ruling on its website. it e-mailed it out to beep reporters. >> what would it take for mueller to - we don't have definitive action for what this case involves mueller. >> it would be subpoena, a foreign corporation that he wants the get information of the russian interference and under federal rule of criminal procedure, you have to respond to grand jury subpoenas if you are a regular person or a corporation. what's tricky here is we have what looks like a foreign entity and then we have a separate statue called ...

Person that mueller is going to be able to talk to do get information. he already has michael flynn, he already has george papadopoulos and now rick gates who is not only going to be able to provide mueller with information about manafort's activities and potentially give mueller even -- potentially more charges that could be brought against manafort at this point, who can bring more pressure to bear there, but remember that gate was also himself present at many meetings and also has firsthand knowledge of other workings of the campaign. so this is a big boon to mueller and his investigation a...

About that. >> if only we could find legal scholar allan dershowi show witr show witsz. do you believe the president has been completely appropriate in his dealing with james comey? >> everybody wans to know if they're under investigation. i try every ware to figure out whether they a're under investigation. i know they're not going to tell me, but that doesn't mean i don't try. sometimes they do give me hints, they say well, if you haven't gotten a target legislature, then you know he's not a target. so you do get information. but the president's different. >> also at a dinner where james com...