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>> bill: at some point. all right. you weren't there when zubaydah was being waterboarded that's a being fanchts right. >> bill: rodriguez said it did lead to valuable intelligence that saved lives i don't think if i was you i would call him a liar if you wasn't there. >> i was there. what they were giving us as examples they got. they said they got ksm. i know they didn't get ksm. they said they got padilla the dirty bomber. i know they didn't get padilla the dirty bomber. more importantly the cia own investigation of the program revealed that not one single imminent threat was stopped becaus...

>> i know. >> bill: at some point. all right. you weren't there when zubaydah was being waterboarded that's a being fanchts right. >> bill: rodriguez said it did lead to valuable intelligence that saved lives i don't think if i was you i would call him a liar if you wasn't there. >> i was there. what they were giving us as examples they got. they said they got ksm. i know they didn't get ksm. they said they got padilla the dirty bomber. i know they didn't get padilla the dirty bomber. more importantly the cia own investigation of the program revealed that not one single imminent threat was sto...

>> i know. >> bill: at some point. all right. you weren't there when zubaydah was being waterboarded that's a being fanchts right. >> bill: rodriguez said it did lead to valuable intelligence that saved lives i don't think if i was you i would call him a liar if you wasn't there. >> i was there. what they were giving us as examples they got. they said they got ksm. i know they didn't get ksm. they said they got padilla the dirty bomber. i know they didn't get padilla the dirty bomber. more importantly the cia own investigation of the program revealed that not one single imminent threat was sto...

Lead to very very vital intelligence that saved thousands of lives. i don't think if i were you that i could call him a liar if i wasn't there. >> well, i was there and what they are giving us as examples they got. they said they got ksm. i know they didn't get ksm. they said they got padilla, the dirty bomber, i know they didn't get padilla the dirty bomber. more importantly, sir, the cia's own investigation of the program real veeld that not one single imminent threat was stopped because of enhanced interrogation techniques. so is the department of justice investigation. so is the department...

Intelligence that saved thousands of lives. i don't think if i were you that i could call him a liar if i wasn't there. >> well, i was there and what they are giving us as examples they got. they said they got ksm. i know they didn't get ksm. they said they got padilla, the dirty bomber, i know they didn't get padilla the dirty bomber. more importantly, sir, the cia's own investigation of the program real veeld that not one single imminent threat was stopped because of enhanced interrogation techniques. so is the department of justice investigation. so is the department of defense investigatio...