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Largest city and rebuilding a fractured state and it's an incredibly important plank of stabilizing the middle east, and the fact he doesn't seem to appreciate that is interesting, and, you know, his sort of view is we should do a surprise attack and just bomb it and take out the leadership and it's like it's a video game movie set reality he seems to be operating in, and not one that is far more complicated and difficult and as you said earlier involves millions of civilians on the ground. >> regardless of who wins the election, it's going to be a major foreign issue to deal with mosul and fo...

Patten, and we are not fighting world war ii anymore, and there's no way to conduct a surprise attack. >> and i wand to ask you that in particular, and trump saying that the element of surprise attack, he had an issue with that, and as you highlighted, they don't necessarily work in this 21st century era of warfare? >> and this is consistent over the entire election campaign we have been following his foreign policy proposals such as they are for the entire duration of the campaign, and it doesn't seem that he particularly developed them over time even when he had a chance to read up about the...

To get the leaders of isis who they felt were in mosul and about three months ago i started reading they want to get the leaders, and they are going to attack mosul. whatever happened to the element of surprise? >> trump's comments on the push into mosul led one reporter to write this article, and it shows how little he knows. and a foreign affairs reporter from the washington post, good to see you and have you with us. >> good to see you. >> let's see what donald trump got right about iraq in the debate? what do you think he got right in the debate? >> well, not very much. he began his whole ...

Doesn't. looking at what clinton said before trump got into his remarks, you know, republican and democratic foreign policy officials on both sides of the establishment are making similar sounds, and it's obviously a very difficult situation and mosul is a complicated city with sunnis and kurds and christians and there's a lot in motion right now, geopolitically, you have the turks providing their interest in the region, and specifically in northern iraq and you have a whole set of other issues, like you said, that needs to be resolved in terms of stabilizing the syrian conflict. if people had...

Ingenious move and draw the counterterrorism forces from mosul to an hour and a half south to where they were able to distract them with the massive day-long bloody attack. this is, again, all signals, and while it looks like they are bad signs, these are signals that isis watchers say is consistent with battles isis has lost in the past. >> if those 284 people turn out to be executed, it's going to be a million or so people trapped, an ominous sign. and mosul was one of the issues donald trump and hillary clinton clashed over in the final debate? >> it's so sad. we had mosul, but when she l...