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Mood. but whether or not they can make government work. and i think it is an open question whether or not it can. let's take it to the getter minds. former republican ohio governor john kasich, and stewart te stevens. thank you for being on the program. do both of you believe that in this system, with our two parties, toxic as it is, that government can work? governor kasich? >> absolutely it can work. but government really usually needs to be a last resort, not a first resort because of the bureaucracy connected to it. i agree with much of what you said, and i've been saying for months now th...

Firefighters and speak to them just like average joe. so i thought that was a pretty impressive bifurcation that biden encompasses. >> paul begala, dana bash. getter minds. thank you very much. we have another big event. the bannon contempt vote on the hill, by the full house this time. instructive as always to see which republicans choose to uphold the rule of law. none. right? wrong. nine. nine, does that matter? yeah. why? because the dynamic on that side that we're going to discuss. anybody who steps out of line is basically taking a risk with everything. what does that mean? we're going...