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seeded states are now free. >> confederates respond saying, okay, fine, if we see black men carrying weapons against us, we will consider that the north's slave rebellion. >> that moment it becomes a war to abolish slavery. >> and there occurs the greatest battle of the war at getties berg on july 1st, 2nd and 3 in 1963. >> pennsylvania is as far as the north confederate army has ever gotten. if the union lost here, it cleared the way for lee to continue marching into new york. they could cutoff the northern states and new england from the mississippi river which would have been a hu...

Something better happens here, i think would be a real mistake. >> and that's what those house republicans have decided. is it worth the capital? let me switch gears and get your take on this because a lot has been made of the president's comments about the civil war and his interview. here's part of what he said. people don't realize the civil war if you think about it why. people don't ask that question. but why was there a civil war? why would that not have been worked out? as a senate from maine, the home state from one of the heroes of getties berg, what is your reaction to that? >> the p...

This isn't ancient history. this is 2012. he sounds exactly like donald trump with all of his verbal ticks and, you know, just the mannerisms and the rhetoric except he is saying the exact opposite thing. he is like 66 years old at this point, too. it is not like he's 20 and he changed his mind. but, you know, remember he said mitt romney was too harsh. this is not a surprise. he said mitt romney was too harsh with the self-deportation. he criticized pat buchanan for being too harsh and anti-semitic. >> you're saying it is political expediency? >> i'm saying he is a phoney and conned the repub...

He said, i will fight again in two years for these tax cuts to expire for the richest americans. was there a fight that the american public missed? >> you know what? i think they'll see the fight as we approach 2012 and the presidential race because this'll be back again because it's a two-year extension. that means it's a 2012 argument. but to my mind he did not pose a large fight here. i think it was telling, i think it was jim mcdermott, a democrat from washington who said this was obama's getties berg, and he didn't withstand picket's charge, the charge being the republicans who held stron...