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Pay for the fact that he wasn't able to keep his promises. >> david, that is a question too. in past shutdowns in '95, the polling went strongly against the republicans. gingrich and the congress back then had to sort of cave in. in 2013 it went against ted cruz and the republicans on that shutdown. they backed out eventually. will republicans in congress, if the polling -- we saw one do by a double-digit margin, folks blaming the president. if that polling continues, will that have a meaningful impact on republicans in congress? >> one of donald trump's difficulties is he doesn't matter that ...

Pay for the fact that he wasn't able to keep his promises. >> david, that is a question in terms of the polling. in past shutdowns in '95, the polling went strongly against the republicans. gingrich and the congress back then had to sort of cave in. in 2013 it went against ted cruz and the republicans on that shutdown. they backed out eventually. the will republicans in congress, if the polling -- we saw one do by a double-digit margin, folks blaming the president. if that polling continues, will that have a meaningful impact on republicans in congress? >> one of donald trump's difficulties is...

>> david, i may come to you after this. i'm giving richard a hard time. >> secondly the report card is coming due on the tax bill with the reduction in corporate rate rates and the encouragement of repatriation of overseas cash. it was supposed to have significant impacts on economic growth and returns to shareholders. that's what the market is looking for now. they're saying it's been long enough. is it happening? >> do they like the way trump talks? is it helpful? >> tone? >> tone, shutting the government down. >> government shutdowns i think are overstated in terms of their impact on the ec...

It will be interesting next year when we have divided government. >> you've covered your fair share of shutdowns, i've covered them as well. it's worth noting that shutdowns usually happen in divided government, a member of one party, and one house controlled by the other party and they fight and that happened with barack obama, with clinton and gingrich. the third shutdown in unified republican governance. what conclusion can you draw from that? >> well, i think you have to conclude that abraham lincoln must be looking down in tears. the party that saved the union now seems intent on tearing ...

Crashing. so many things are moving now. i just don't see the public -- it's like you said. third time this year. until you reminded me of that i totally forgot. >> if it's patched up monday or tuesday or whatever, i think it clearly falls in the forgotten category. is there a scenario here where the calendar is flipping into february 2019 and saying, democrat house is digging in its heels on the wall and trump is still insisting -- this impasse lives for weeks or months? >> whether or not it's forgotten is a different story. until we know the end-all game. gingrich wound up with balanced budg...