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And 45% think that north korea, the dprk, is an imminent threat to the united states. we're not -- we're not being educated about how this works. either by the media or by the politicians. >> so if tensions are high, obviously the -- secretary of state kerry went there to lower tensions and they talk about a diplomatic solution, there is a familiarity to tensions and diplomatic offramps. people talk about offramps. su, as someone who studied north korea, what is the offramp here? how do we end up in a place where we aren't at this pitch state of crisis? >> what's going to happen is they will p...

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Weapon estate and must be treated that way frps one analyst here described it to me like this. that north korea sees it self militarily at about 10%. and sees its own internal valuation. and sees the united states and south korea which cooperate jointly maybe at 50% strength and it wants to bolster itself so they are equals and from positions of military equals they can start having a dialogue. that is its dream and it believes in order to get there, it has to have a dem o on straighted nuclear capacity. >> mark? ooze i've heard, by the way, i don't think it is fark to characterize the dia's a...

Nuclear weapon. probably not one that can go very far, but probably something like the nodong that david sa sanger was talking about. that does change the calculation. it does change how the world reacts. will the united states treat north korea like a nuclear power, like a nuclear power that can project its weapons to foreign nations? what does that mean, how does it change calculations? i think the u.s. in part is dyinging back because it doesn't make those calculations. >> mark? >> this begs another question. what would north korea do with a weapon? it would be suicidal to launch the weapon...

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