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The interviews that rudy giuliani is now doing and the contradictions he's presented, the fact of the matter is it is not a crime to lie to the press. how could all of the statements be used in a courtroom? >> it is true it is not a crime to lie to the press. what is interesting, the president is tweeting at the same time. there are specific statements by the president that can be used. we're also gaining insight into their strategic thinking and so individuals who are related to the campaign can be at some point potentially questioned and say, you know, this statement was made, you know, the ...

The military didn't pay attention to trump twoeeks ago when he said we're going to get out of there very soon. they held their own nice and level and waited for a more smooth policy statement to come out. then this latest atrocity comes out. it is not the first this year or the first of the war but it is the one that's gotten enough attention from this president on a sunday via twitter. and like everything else we've seen with the president and the syrian war, let's wait to see what the policy will be, what the reaction will be and maybe as soon as tomorrow at pentagon. >> navid, it seems in r...

If it changes, she will have a reason for it and have the same straight face. it's why people don't know what to believe and not believe anymore. >> the president will eventually do what he is talking about doing. every day there is a 25% chance that he fires h.r. mcmaster. eventually that chance will come up. we will see if today is the day. it's part of why you have to view every possible change. >> the problem is he hears alex burns. he said i'm not crazy about the unshaven look. i get rid of him today. i'm not doing it today. i can't tell you how many times. this had to happen to you to....

About the african-american community, he continues to spread. and you carried it, to sit here and defend this, when you should know because you're a smart person to study the statistics, should know that the president did nothing, has not lifted a finger to help the african-american commune tirks has been t community. i don't want to hear any nonsense about taking credit for things that president obama did unless he acknowledges that president obama had some role in doing that. that's what is so indefensible. >> labor force participation rate is up for african-americans and that was the critic...

I think you're still seeing some of that play out. >> ken delaney, i want to read another portion from the book. this is an on the record quotes that hallie was talking about from steve bannon. quote, the three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside trump tower in the conference room on the 25th floor with no lawyers. they didn't have any lawyers. even if you thought that this was not treasonous or unpatriotic or bad expletive, there's a fair amount of language used throughout the book we can't use on cable news in the afternoon, or bad ...