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Like you're going to save that much money, then. there is significant savings. i mean, this is — we're delivering value for licence fee—payers. this is a value—for—all project. but also underpinning it is world—class journalism and our commitment to delivering for all audiences world—class, impartial journalism, which we know they value and they want from the bbc. now, we've already heard from some uk licence fee—payers who are unhappy that they feel they're getting a worse service. essentially, it's a takeover of the uk channel by world news, isn't it, with some opt—outs? it's...

Who are unhappy that they feel they're getting a worse service. essentially it's a takeover of the uk channel by world news, isn't it, with some opt—outs? it's not a takeover. i'll go back to what i said earlier in the sense that during the day there are two feeds, a global feed and the uk feed. sometimes they're combined. on any given weekday, there's 7.5 hours of uk—facing content built into the schedule for uk viewers before you even think about the combined feed. and it could be that a uk story might be the top story globally on a given day, and also obviously significant uk stories wi...

When you heard it, what did you think? >> i think it's pretty hard to believe that. first of all, let us assume, for arguments sake, that he, in fact, had a standing order, even though apparently, no one seems to be aware of it, or can find a copy of it in his former chief of staff, who would certainly be expected to know of, it wasn't aware of it. even if you make that assumption that there was such an order, and that the president had the power to do that, both of which are big assumptions, in the real world, the practicality of it just falls apart, and it becomes almost very quickly nonsens...

Really incredible hard to do. because we have boots on the ground you've got people who can tell you certain things. everything from the wind direction, on a given day, and with the weather patterns are. like from that perspective as well as what the pattern of life of an individual's. they could be following that individual and finding out what the routines are. if you don't have people on the ground. you can do those kind of things, but it is a lot harder to do them. because you need to rely on technology. you need to rely on satellites. you need to rely on perhaps, instruments that are a li...

Do you wish you had attended? >> you will know, the stakes could not be higher in georgia and having run for governor of my home state last time around when stacey was on the ballot, she needs to do what she needs to do to win. she has, you know, an uphill battle against an incumbent. she has an uphill battle against an incumbent who is chief vote suppresser in the country and cheating every way he can. so i will never fault my old friend stacey abrams from choosing what she needs to do on a given day. with cliff, we literally went to cell block d.c. together got reacted outside the white hous...