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Rich, and the bet is how many poor can pay back their bills. that was created by bob reuben and larry summers, expanded by ceos of banks not individuals who broker on a given day and our politicians are complicity. >> dylan ratigan, henry blodgett, great to have you both. thank you guys. you can catch the dylan ratigan show today and every day on msnbc news. that does it for me. i'm monica novotny. tamron hall picks up next. tamron will keep an eye on the goldman sachs hearing on capitol hill plus talk to donald trump but bret michaels medical condition and the impact on celebrity apprentice. ...

Rahm was, quote, very promiscuous in his leaking. >> that's looked down upon in this white house. >> everybody in washington, d.c., that if you knew rahm, rahm was telling you, jim, i was there. i told him what to do. they didn't listen. >> and there's no doubt that there's a fair amount of that going on and that rahm talks to so many people in this city. like you cannot exaggerate how many people he talks to in a given day, whether it's reporters and all the different news organizations, members of congress, lindsey graham on the other side of the aisle. the guy's in constant contact. and he'...

Is huge. trump has had an difficult time navigating trump's republican party and dominance. remember on the campaign trial ryan at one point said he couldn't support trump. then turned around and ended up doing it after it didn't necessarily go so well for him with with base of his party. the guy that paul ryan is and the way he acts in his personal life doesn't line up to the way we have seen mr. speaker -- sir do you want to stop and talk more about this. sorry about that. as the speaker typically doesn't talk at all in the hallway. we got a bit more out of him than we normally did with that...