When you listen to that again, help us understand what you're feeling. it sounds like you're feeling guilt. i hope you know nobody, nobody is placing that on you. >> good morning. thank you for having us. it makes me -- the guilt feelings, it has taken a lot of years to try not to feel that way but, you know, just constantly thinking about the fam families, about the victims that were lost that day. it's just been an emotional roller coaster. >> none of us can understand what it's like for you, gladys. i know, gillian, the foundation's new podcast, it's excruciating for us to hear that. it's e...