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No. it's interesting, going back to the rosneft issue, who bought rosneft? >> we don't know. >> it is known. it's public record. glen corps, and who is the founder? a guy named mark rich. so if you want to know that the clintons are better people to ask. >> but let me ask you that, the context for all this -- and i believe people like yourself and others believe there is a witch-hunt going on but the reason for that is because every u.s. intelligence agency has come to the conclusion that it was russia that illegally broke into the dnc e-mail system and to john podesta in an attempt to subvert...

Interesting about that, chris, i -- so rosneft -- >> the largest oil company in russia. >> exactly. there's been so many reports about the -- >> wait, before you tell me that. that's a simple yes or no question. did you meet we they are of those individuals. >> not -- no, never. >> never? >> no. >> you never met we they are of them. >> not one on one, no. i may have been in a meeting at a conversation or something so i want to be careful -- but i never shook either of their hands. >> and you were never in a meeting with the two of them over the summer? >> absolutely not, for sure. >> did you e...