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Axelrod, i have to be looking at states that i won in '08, such as virginia, and north carolina, and mitch daniels' ind, and colorado, which have now gone republican and have lots of reason to be anxious regardless of if i have a clue of who is going to be my opponent. >> i think that, you know, obviously former governor mitt romney from massachusetts sits atop the field. obviously he did well in 2008 without winning, but maintained a strong position. he sort of kept quiet. he stayed away from some of the gaffes you have seen house speaker newt gingrich has made, for example. and then i would ...

It. and we need to see if somebody can catch on. tim paw len tea. he could catch on. there is no question. somebody can emerge. right now, you have to like where the president is sitting. no ifs ands or buts about it. because the field appears so weak. we are still more than a year -- almost a year and a half away from the election. so many things can happen. >> true. with regard to the president, president obama announced that he wants to open more federal land open to oil drilling. will that help gas prices? that's all that anybody cares about these days? >> sure, i think that psychologica...

Michelle balkman is here i understand, and she's thinking about running for president. which is weird, because i hear she was born in canada. yes, michelle, this is how it starts. so now you know. tim paw len tea. he seems all american. but if you hear his middle name, tim jose, what a shame. my buddy and outstanding ambassador, john huntsman is with us.

Most of the candidates on the republican side are not very well known. right? haley barbour is not famous, and tim poe len tea is not famous nationally. and donald trump is somebody who is on television, and he's got buildings named after him and in the public eye for some period of time. when you ask people out early in a poll and you have a bunch of namsz they have not heard and one they have, they are likely to go with the one that they have heard. if he were to get in a contest with actual republican politicians with records and constituencies, he would have zero chance. >> let's throw sar...