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For kaley and others, what's the stakes for them or pretending they got nothing to contribute? in fact, they do. you are seeing this clearance from the trump's orbit as much as they possibly can. they see the glide past of this thing and it is not a good glide past to be associated with it. you will find more and more the committee already told us a significant number of people from the administration testified and i know others who are coming out the next few weeks too talk about what they said and that's going to be a problem for donald trump. >> that explains why mark meadows, they asked hi...

There from al qaeda only al qaeda escape through the incompetence of others but effectively, we have push them out of afghanistan and we should have. we didn't do that and so what have we got now? we don't have democracy, we haven't defeated terrorism, we have probably created some new ones, we have the largest narco state in the world now falling into the hands of new criminals and new terrorists. >> tucker: all of that is depressing to hear and i think verifiably true but i want to go to the very first point that you made that after 20 years, there is no specific plan to leave her as you put...

On the taliban, had no role in 9/11, we were there from al qaeda only al qaeda escape through the incompetence of others but effectively, we have push them out of afghanistan and we should have. we didn't do that and so whatt have we got now? we don't have democracy, we haven't defeated terrorism, we have probably created some new ones, we have the largest narco state in the world now falling into the hands of new criminals and new terrorists. >> tucker: all of that is depressing to hear and i think verifiably true but i want to go to the very first point that you made that after 20 years, the...