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About this on a previous episode of the podcast this week, we were seriously talking about, oh, potential areas for climb—down or compromise, and we took that sort of seriously. yeah. what i think happened was that a kremlin spokesman gave - an interview to reuters a few days ago in which the spokesman - reiterated the russian demands, i i.e., ukraine has to recognise that crimea is russian, they have to accept the independence i of the two statelet republics - in the east, it has to accept that ukraine will be neutral— and will neverjoin the eu or nato. and everybody said, oh, those - are...

And negotiation. he's not mentioning denazification! - well, i have to say, - denazification was back in all its glory today, - so i think that was an example of, again, everybody slightly over interpreting sometimesj what it said, you know, in a totally natural - expectation of hope, well, maybe there isj some common ground. but, at the moment, i on the basis of today, very little evidence of it. are they even willing, james, to say that they are going to continue talking? well, the ukrainian foreign minister was willing - to do that. he said that. mr lavrov much less so. he said that the ukr...