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Materially, over the last 20 years, so why do they get a say in this, the failures? >> they like to portray themselves of cold warriors the architect of america's strategy warned that nato expansion coul lead us to a war with russia an he has been vindicated were now on the precipice of that kind o conflict. it's a great question, why should we listen to these people . >> i couldn't agree more. this is a sincere question, is there something i am missing, i there some compelling american interest that would be served b having ukraine and nato? >> the deeper irony is that nat doesn't even want u...

Causing flash flooding, but if you survive that, something else could happen to you. a car accident, you're injured and authorities can't get to you. you have to evacuate if you're told to go. it could save your life. and you just mentioned, you might have to change your location. what an excellent example that should show everybody. if you're evacuating. this is what evacuation looks like. come with me, let's get out of here. >> absolutely. and they are telling us here the local authorities that the shelters are near capacity, but nat doesn't mean that you can't go. the salvation army is maki...