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Different than what the team learned else where. that duration of the interview is really important. >> philip, your answer has been shockingly helpful. it tees up the next thing that the president said that i think is highly instructive. we'll call it exhibit a of what the risk and the potential reward is in an interview like this. do we have the sound ready of what he said about mccabe? listen to this. >> i would do it under oath, yeah. >> do you trust the fbi? >> well, we're going to see. i mean i am very disturbed, as is the general, as is everybody else that is intelligent, when you look ...

There's a shadow organization within the fbi. >> we intend to. we intend to, absolutely. we intend to find out what it is. that's why the american people have been learning more and more about the intractable bias in this investigation. >> they need facts to back it up and when they get them, you know where you're welcome to come on and make the case. right here. appreciate you taking the opportunity. >> thank you. more breaking news tonight. for you religious people out there who are christians, you know that i'm right. and for those of you who don't, go google it. see what the immaculate c...

Security. i just wrote something out. we want great border security. we want to do a great job with daca. i think it's our issue. i think it's a better issue for the republicans than for the democrats. >> do you want citizenship for d.r.e.a.m.ers? >> we're going to -- we're going to morph into it. it's going to happen. >> what does that mean? >> over a period, over a period of 10 to 12 years, if somebody does a great job, they've worked rd. gives incentive to do a great job. but they've worked hard. they've done terrifically whether they have a little company or whether they work, whatever the...

If it's under oath in the grand jury, you have the opportunity to also charge perjury if a lie is told. so there are a lot of reasons why sometimes people will want to put a subject of an investigation into the grand jury. but, again, in the normal course, you would first reach out to a subject's lawyer, to donald trump's lawyer, to ty cobb and say, will you please come in for this interview, and you would do the sit-down interview. >> norm eisen, ty cobb walked this back a little bit saying he's ready to meet with him but he'll be guided by the advice of his personal counsel. he said arrangem...

She said it. you don't know what the context is. have you even picked up the phone and asked? >> i'm sure you've seen ron johnson's statements where -- >> and he backed off. >> no. >> he backed off. >> he said there's an informant. >> he said, we have an infornt who talked about private meetings thatere off site. we don't even know if it's related to the same thing. >> you have a text message talking about -- >> i'll tell you what's got me. i'll tell you, matt, whether it's you or johnson or any of you. you switch the r and the d and you switch the context from this discussion about these text...