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Who would be listening, or what the implications would be. i don't think they knew what would happen on that call. that was an unusual call in many r respects. we know there was pressure put on president zelensky. >> when you think about what that was about, you had texted go gordon, it's crazy to ask for help with a political campaign, but that's exactly what was going on. should people still care, or is it just the past? >> people should certainly care. and what happened during that time was that there was an unusual, i called it irregular channel that was operating between the united states...

Page. the gold here is verifiable and irreversible denewsrization. >> i want to bring in the chief white house correspondent for the new yorker times, peter baker. and my pal andrea mitchell along with former secretary of state. go gordon let me start with you, stalk through a lot of options the president had here. if kim jong-un asked for a meeting and he said no that could be a potential of setting him off. >> i think the relationship with south korea is the more important here. kim jong-un is from a dynasty from 70 years. they're pain goal is to get the u.s. off the peninsula to drive

Game but the clear goals have to be imp in tmented. >> it was a year ago this week that the president made the comments of fire and furry that lit the world on fire. gordon, do you think the president will return to that kind of rhetoric, is that a concern for you at all? >> yeah, everything is a concern right now because if these talks toen go well, we could see things go spiral down ward quickly. we got to remember that the kim family has a play book and one of them is you have these dramatic overtures and then you follow them with a provocation. this is something that can easily occur. with...