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There's a warning this morning that a shortage of builders could be an even bigger problem than the truck driver crisis. nina warhurst has been talking to builders in manchester. there is a serious shortage in building and construction. i am at the manchester college where we have the bricklayers of the future. emanuel, i want to interrupt you, tell our viewers why he wanted to get into this industry, because it is a lovely story. i was working, but then, started my apprenticeship. i liked to play lego, liked building. in secondary school i liked textiles. so it is a childhood dream. it must b...

For ambition to get a title. if you jump on this train, because most people didn't want to be on it, this was the easiest way to get there. >> absolutely. absolutely. it's a fast ride to heaven. no question about that, in political terms. but i just disagree with this notion that these people -- people who go into work for donald trump are pulled in and therefore lose their sense of responsibility. >> right. >> and you know, i just don't think that's true. you know, even in the nixon days, there were people who were inside who were fighting for the old traditional standards of integrity, peopl...

Was the easiest way to get there. >> absolutely. absolutely. it's a fast ride to heaven. no question about that, in political terms. but i just disagree with this notion that these people -- people who go into work for donald trump are pulled in and therefore lose their sense of responsibility. >> right. >> and you know, i just don't think that's true. you know, even in the nixon days, there were people who were inside who were fighting for the old traditional standards of integrity, people like leonard garman and others. and you know, you have to make a separation. if you're working in a whit...