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Times" up today about how president trump is privately rejecting republican warnings that they are likely to lose the house and maybe even the senate. that he really believes that this is not a problem. that everything is going to work out. that just like people underestimated him in 2016, they'll do so again in 2018. and he keeps sort of rejecting it over and over again. but the problem is, a, he's not on the ballot. and b, the russian investigation, the drip, drip, drip aspect of it and his ability to sort of go off-message, he's not able to sell the republican tax cut. he's not able to real...

Understood that far more white americans get food stamps than blacks. that to have an honest discussion about dependency doesn't mean you're a racist, it means you're worried about the future of people who are being taught to be dependent on the government. i think you can have an honest conversation about whether it's good for americans, notice i said americans, not any particular ethnic subgroup, to make them dependents, deprive them of their jobs, and have them lean on the federal government. but i'm confident that some people in the elite media desperate to re-elect bill -- to re-elect bar...

Who was governor of massachusetts. they were voting for a vessel, i guess. and it's sad to say that andrea saul is going to take the brunt of this, because on strict policy terms, she did not contradict the romney message. the romney message has always been that he passed a law as governor of massachusetts for massachusetts, not for the nation at whole. she said nothing that contradicts that message. but apparently the rules for the republican party is, you can't even talk about romney care, and i think that's absurd. >> you can't tell the truth. that's their message. and here's the thing. if ...

But to act like andrea saul needs to be kind of sacrificed here is just totally absurd and it's wrong. it's unfair. >> wouldn't you say that's a gross miscalculation if she was, in fact, on message? i mean, you have conservatives of all stripes -- >> yes. >> -- really angry about this. >> but you got to that with your first point, right, that the boss of andrea saul, eric fernstrom, who runs communications for the romney campaign, had said essentially when you get to a general election you have etch a-sketch moments. and by that, we can presume that he means, you start to shift focus. everythi...

Her role in the republican party. newt gingrich, obviously, has a different role. how difficult is it for mitt romney to have newt gingrich in the shadows and to be calling in, theoretically, favors from him right now that ultimately he's going to have to pay for later? >> well, yeah, and that's the problem. this is a guy who obviously feels that he could be doing this better than mitt romney. and now mitt romney is opening the door for him to put on salons for mitt romney on how to appeal to conservatives. but again, back to our orange the point, that is not newt -- mitt romney's job right no...