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City to pearl harbor, as far as the impact of a psyche on the american people. one of the chief intentions was the same as dropping the bomb on hiroshima. and what was that? to say, listen, if you don't knock it off, there's more of this to come. >> this is one kid who got it in his head that he could play god. >> when mcveigh talks about the actual bombing, he's not almost bragging, he's boasting completely. but, you know, what the guy is talking about is mass murder on an incredible scale, including the murder of children. >> first of all, i believe there is no hell. but if i go further and ...

>> with my parents, to be completely honest, i can't sit here today and tell you that i truly love them. i know what love is. and i don't think i feel it toward my parents. you asked if there's any men that i loved. i love my grandfather mcveigh. >> ed mcveigh lived just a mile or so down the road and became a role model and constant presence in young mcveigh's life once his mother and sisters moved away. >> ed did a lot of child rearing with tim. and thank god ed was there, because he would have had no one. >> he would go shooting with his grandfather. he did everything with his grandfather. ...

>> you've got this adrenaline pumping, but you force yourself to stay calm and not be noticed. then pulled up to the right, which is red at the time. i did the two-minute fuse at the stoplight. i swear to god, it was the longest stoplight i ever sat in in my life. i'm thinking, okay, it's lit, green, green. >> there's kind of an amazing moment as the fuses are burning back from the cap of the truck into the rear. he's kind of tapping his fingers at a red light counting down the last few minutes. >> as the windows rolled down just as he's approaching the light, because he didn't anticipate that...

Would draw pictures and just relate her anger about the situation. >> i remember thinking that the person who did that to so many families, that they should -- that they should have some repercussions for it. they shouldn't just get away with it. >> you know, she -- she wanted him punished, the ultimate punishment for him. >> janney coverdale lost her two young grandsons that day. they were just beginning the morning at the daycare center on the second floor when the explosion took their lives. >> i remember the day they told us that they were dead. i remember screaming at god. it took me a lo...

There's just no doubt about it. >> jefferson claims his motive is more personal than monetary. a close friend of his od'ed on heroin. he says he wants to drive the heroin dealers off the mannheim strip. >> all right, guys. i just placed a call to tiffany. he ordered four dime bags of heroin. >> tonight, walls will conduct surveillance while jefferson and an undercover narc make a buy. >> when they get to the end, they're going to call her and have her come outside. all right, guys. be advised i just talked to the uc, the ci talked to the target. she said she'll be down with the product in like...