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Ascent of kelli ward to really extraordinary access is just a super interesting parallel to trump's own assent and the durability, frankly, of what he's been able to produce. >> well i mean, it's a very good point that kelli ward's trajectory over the last eight years is largely sort of the republican party trajectory. i mean, i covered her in 2014. chuckled at the cantrell kelly line from the mcconnell allies, the idea was that this person was a god fly, fringe, you know, a ridiculous character. she's a chair of the republican party for the state of arizona talking to the president that at th...

Trajectory over the last eight years is largely sort of the republican party trajectory. i mean, i covered her in 2014. chuckled at the cantrell kelly line from the mcconnell allies, the idea was that this person was a god fly, fringe, you know, a ridiculous character. she's a chair of the republican party for the state of arizona talking to the president that at that point, the sitting president of the united states, it appears, about how to overturn an election. and this is the kind of person, i mean, it also speaks to the fact that along with kelli ward, you've got to elective representativ...