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>> rand paul will be running a commercial during the debate. >> right. >> tomorrow again trying to label donald trump as not a real conservative, which is the message jeb bush has been pushing for well. >> the club for growth in iowa making the same message. we are about to find out. this is the most conventional weapon. paid advertisement bs, will it work? that's the question. will it work? one more quick point, donald trump is above 30%. if he can stay close to that number as we move on, he's in a golden position. 25% of republican voters say they will not vote for jeb bush. jeb bush has to ...

Golden position. 25% of republican voters roughly now say they will not vote for jeb bush. jeb bush has to move that number. >> it's hard. >> he has to move that number. >> and yet. donald trump, they can run commercials and spend a lot of money. donald trump can tweet and get as much coverage perhaps as some of these commercials. >> right. that's then unconventional part of donald trump. he can also, by the way, phone in. you know, he can phone in and we put him on the air and donald trump talks to us and, you know, the other candidates quite frankly are planing to us. >> gloria borger, john ...