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Goldilocks process, trying to get what every other administration does naturally, have a process, roll it out properly, the way that you arrive at the decision is a confidence building measure for yourself. the way you roll it out is confidence building, the problem is, doing all this weird flip-floppy stuff and not getting it right the first time, means nobody -- even people that should be happy we're moving away from this posture, nobody's happy, because they keep screwing it up, they can't even do good stuff right. that's a big problem. it's a big problem. i would like to sit here and say, ...

If memory serves. my real concern about this summit is if he gets tiunit a rm with kim jong-un, he thinks he hears something and the agreement doesn't wind up being operable. >> van, you worked in the last white house, you know how these deals play out. it's not something you go into a meeting and then decide, well, i'm going to say yes to this. this has to be strategized months and sometimes years. >> yeah. i mean a couple things. to try to be fair to the white house, the criticism up until now was that the white house had completely unrealistic terms for any discussion. people said, listen, ...