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Heard? >> current sales and what the market looks like right now. >> okay. what about you? >> i'm not familiar with golf so i'm not sure who the person who endorsed the product is which i'm sure a lot of people do know who he is but i don't. >> jim mclean, is ranked among the top five golf instructors in the world. >> you had good energy, i can tell you that in the pitch. from what he gave you and assuming he had a little more about sales would you take another meeting? >> i would. my feeling is these are fly or die products. either it's going to be the next sham wow or it burns out so i would...