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Plenty of women are as ambitious as men, but i am saying and i want to say it unequivocally and unapologetically that the data is clear that when it comes to ambition to lead, to be the leader of whatever you're doing, men, boys outnumber girls and women. >> and joining us now is former cbs news anchor 20 years in the business and now written the book "the good enough mother," sounds like parenting to me. she also launched the website goodenoughmother.com. i got to go there. one of the messages of sandberg's book is often women leave before they lead meaning they hold back on their ambitions o...

What do you think of the point she made there? that that is sometimes you can make those kinds of sacrifices. was that the case for you? >> yeah. i think you're absolutely right. i remember very clearly when i was getting up at 3:30 in the morning and anchoring the news at cbs and during the commercial breaks i would run into the air lock and call home to make sure that everybody was awake and they were on their way to school. and i remember i was getting ready -- there was a guest who was in the air lock with me and she said i thought you would have hired someone to do that for you. i said, w...