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Russia change came from such a high level person in trump campaign she didn't believe initially someone that high would want this russian change. >> i thought he was perhaps overreaching his pay grade, so i asked him three times. with very definitely who he was talking to, gave me same answer all three times. really didn't believe him. given what she knows now, denman does believe what he said then. speaking about watering down this russia amendment to someone in highest levels of the campaign. that's what we learned in april before this was unfurled in today's indictment. earlier this year, m...

Process here is going to be quite long, quite drawn out. potentially even charges of prosecutorial misconduct from the defense. they know they're in a corner. they know it's going to be tough. >> brian, can i ask you a silly question? >> absolutely, ari. >> would it help paul manafort in court to say regardless of what he is accused of, he doesn't like hillary clinton or she has done bad things? is that something that would get him off? it would change. if they change venue to the hamptons or the coal country of pennsylvania, your guess is as good as mine. but i noticed in the clip you played ...

We learn that now. different offer in june. june 3rd. consider this, public reports of the democratic e-mail hack didn't come until later, june 14th. >> this comes from the pages of the "washington post" just handed to us. headline reads russian government hackers penetrated dnc, stole opposition research on trump. >> today's unsealed confession is a pretty damning time line for some trump aides who said the trump tower meeting was first time heard of the offers to help. first intrusions in 2015, phishing e-mail with john podesta is march 18th, 2016. that's what we learned happening today goin...

Your chance to cooperate. >> and briefly michael, based on your reporting, do you think he is likely to cooperate and flynn and tony podesta, democratic powerhouse, are exposed on the foreign power issue? mueller is willing to charge on it. >> if you look at indictment against manafort and gates there is potential exposure of tony podesta, democratic fundraiser and brother to john podesta and the -- republican -- both hired to do this for yanukovych and both didn't file under the foreign -- didn't believe working for foreign principal. and both told in writing that

As we learn this today, barbara is make the point that this is material long ago confirmed and provided to mueller's investigators, may have made moves based on this. >> with know that gates has been cooperating since he was taken at dulles in late july. >> papadopoulos has been cooperating at least since he entered into plea agreement october 5th. some point he agreed to cooperate. likely additional facts not known to us but known to mueller, timing is significant today. could have unsealed the papadopoulos plea any time, october 5th or waited another month. chose today because also unsealing...