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coming up, after hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. across the world, workers are finding their living standards squeezed by rising inflation. for some, it's not so much a squeeze as decapitation. technological change is driving job cuts in a host of industries. do workers have the means to fight back? well, the uk rail industry is something of a test case. for months, rail workers have been striking over pay and plans to change working conditions. my guest is mick lynch, leader of the biggest rail union, the rmt. the stakes in this fight are high. can the workers win...

On to their conditions" — but the fact is, surely, you would accept, your workers, your members would accept that technologies change, the ways of doing business change, and that involves change on the railways. gor example, we canjust take a couple of issues, let's start with the way customers buy tickets. you are determined to stop the closure of ticket offices, when it is quite plain, if you just look at the figures, that only one in eight rail customers now purchases their ticket in a ticket office. why do you need all these ticket offices? it's notjust about the sale of tickets, it's ab...

People, set an example. right, again, an interesting turn of phrase. you say, "our people will hang on to their conditions" — but the fact is, surely, you would accept, your workers, your members would accept that technologies change, the ways of doing business change, and that involves change on the railways. gor example, we canjust take a couple of issues, for example, we canjust take a couple of issues, let's start with the way customers buy tickets. you are determined to stop the closure of ticket offices, when it is quite plain, if you just look at the figures, that only one in eight ra...