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Why didn't that happen? >> sir, i can't speak to that. i would generally agree that ambassadors work for secretary of state and the president. >> do you have, you don't have any idea, you worked for him, you don't have any idea why john bolton would characterize what the ambassador was doing as a drug deal, but not rein him in? >> ambassadors don't work for the national security adviser. >> but john bolton is national security adviser, presumably spends time with the secretary of state. i am puzzled that everybody characterizes this as the gordon problem, inappropriate, and the secretary of st...

President zelensky. >> right, but it was before this that dr. hill had told you about to burisma and ambassador sondland in particular his desire for this parallel process to investigate burisma, right? >> yes. >> so you had that association when he received his email asking you about investigations, correct? >> not necessarily. >> no? >> no. >> why not? >> because -- among the discussions that i had with dr. hill were about ambassador sondland, i think she might've coined it "the gordon problem." and i decided to keep track of what ambassador sondland was doing. i did not necessarily always a...

General assembly. so i struggle to stay if he ever raised it, but not at the time of the 25 july phone call. >> i'm switching gears a little bit. you strike me as a process guy. and it is nagging at me, because you characterized the ambassador sondland linking in whatever way it happened of aid to an investigation as the gordon problem. you said it caused you to roll your eyes. ambassador volker said it was everybody in the july 10th meeting felt it was inappropriate. john bolton characterizes it as the drug deal, so it seems like everybody in the room understands that there is a huge problem ...

Hesitate to say did he ever raise it. but he did not raise it at the time of the 25 july phone call. >> okay. switching gears a little bit, you strike me as a process guy. and it's nagging at me because you characterized the ambassador sondland's linking, in whatever way it happened, of aid to an investigation as the gordon problem, you said it caused you to roll your eyes. ambassador volker said everybody in the july 10th meeting thought it was inappropriate. john bolton characterizes this as the drug deal. it seems like everybody in the room understands there's a huge problem here. my unders...

State might rein them in. why didn't that happen? >> sir, i can't speak to that. but i would generally agree that ambassadors work for the secretary of state and the president. >> do you have -- you don't have any idea -- you worked for him. you don't have any idea why john bolton would characterize what the ambassador was doing as a drug deal but not rein him in? >> ambassadors don't work for the national security adviser. >> no, but john bolton presumably spends time with the secretary of state. i'm puzzled, everybody in the room is characterizing this as the gordon problem, a drug deal, and...