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To a conclusion because somebody had to win and somebody had to lose. >> but i heard you just came in and were very sort of like we won, like we're preserving -- >> well, of course i did because that's what i believed, and by the way, that's what happened. >> baker knew to win he needed to get out of florida's courts. >> if we didn't find a way to get into the federal courts, we were dead meat. >> because the florida supreme court was dominated by democrats, baker had to make his case to conservatives who wanted to leave it at the state level. >> you want to be ideologically pure or do you wan...

Criticizing our going to federal court because if we stay with the florida supreme court we're going to lose. there was no doubt about it, and if you look at their opinions and the way they screwed us with those opinions, we would have lost. >> the gore team says the game was rigged against them. after all, republicans controlled the statehouse and george bush's brother jeb was the governor. >> we thought it would be close. never in my wildest dreams did i ever imagine it would be this close. >> if you own the system, which the governor at the time bush owned, you generally will win. they didn...

Explore it a little more in the afternoo afternoon. >> from blair house back into west executive drive, heading back into the white house for lunch. obviously, to decide who got the best advantage so far. joining me here on andrea mitchell reports is patrick j. buchanan, msnbc political analyst and michael feldman, democratic analyst, part of the clinton/gore team back when, the last time health care was attempted by a president in this arena. let's talk about who had the best advantage so far today. we saw an extraordinary confrontation, really, political, sharp exchange between john mccain a...