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Fisa warrant, then shame on whoever manipulated -- >> sean: jail time. >> you know, let's cool it a little bit. i think first of all, congratulations -- >> sean: i'm cool as a cucumber. i think that you -- but for your efforts, i think this whole issue would have died away. now, if indeed, the steele dossier is the basis for the fisa warrant that got carter page that ultimately trap general plan, that because the president all of thiss turmoil, upset, and distraction, then shame on the dnc, shame on the democrats -- >> sean: you can fly to a court! you can't use an unverified document to get a...

Really is possibly the most important player in this whole thing because that is where an obstruction of justice case would reside? >> exactly. i mean, the other thing scarier is mueller coming after kushner. >> that's right. >> other than family, this is the most perilous indictment for donald trump. >> julia, we need your speed reading assessments of the carter page transcript. this is a house intelligence committee interview conducted of carter page on thursday. what do we know at this point? i know it's hundreds of pages long. >> it is. luckily, i have the help of a lot of my colleagues he...

Carter page transcript. this is a house intelligence committee interview conducted of carter page on thursday. what do we know at this point? i know it's hundreds of pages long. >> it is. luckily, i have the help of a lot of my colleagues here at nbc. we are all sort of piecing this apart and sharing the first things standing out and the first thing jumping out are how many people on the trump campaign knew that carter page was going to russia in july of 2016. so far that looks like corey lewandowski, jd gordon, hope hicks, sam clovis and jeff sessions. a piece i was charged with looking over ...

That's gulen, the muslim cleric, opponent of turkish president erdogan. that, of course, would be a huge breach and completely illegal to allow another country to bribe, we understand that he may have been offered millions of dollars, to allow another country to bribe someone in a position to influence that policy. those decisions, extradition or other means, are not supposed to come from someone at the white house and supposed to come through diplomatic, non-political channels. >> julia, i want you to keep reading the carter page transcript which i know you have in front of you. we'll come ba...

Position to influence that policy. those decisions, extradition or other means, are not supposed to come from someone at the white house and supposed to come through diplomatic, non-political channels. >> julia, i want you to keep reading the carter page transcript which i know you have in front of you. we'll come back to you on that in just a moment. i want to go to gene robinson to talk about where the jury that really matters is on this and that is, of course, american voters. we have a very important new poll out tonight, a cnn poll showing that 64% view the russia investigation as a serio...