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His son was his partner, worked with him when he was lobbying and as he was national security adviser so he has the same information, the father would. and so we're thinking here that muler is trying to apply pressure to flynn to get him to cooperate to give him the details he needs to flush out the narrative putting pressure on both him and his son. it's a very smart prosecutorial move if you think about it trying to get a witness to cooperate. the other key piece of this, of course, is whether or not flynn used his position as national security adviser to push for the removal of gulen. that'...

That's gulen, the muslim cleric, opponent of turkish president erdogan. that, of course, would be a huge breach and completely illegal to allow another country to bribe, we understand that he may have been offered millions of dollars, to allow another country to bribe someone in a position to influence that policy. those decisions, extradition or other means, are not supposed to come from someone at the white house and supposed to come through diplomatic, non-political channels. >> julia, i want you to keep reading the carter page transcript which i know you have in front of you. we'll come ba...