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Aided by the chief of staff got conservatives and heard from them and placed them in the oval office meeting to prevent what they feared would be an effort by graham and dick durbin to try to roll the president into arranging some deal. i'm going to have john kelly on tomorrow night and i will ask you a whole bunch of questions. >> dana: that be a good time to ask him how they are playing chicken on a shutdown. mitch mcconnell has said there's no education in the second kick of a mule. with paul ryan and other republicans, are the democrats thinking they could force the republicans into one an...

Early. early in 1999, a whole group governors got around him. i don't think that's going to happen this type. and but christie needs to try to show some broader support in conservative elements of the party. that's what he'll try to do. >> he's going to walk a line. we're not looking like he's going to flip-flop. chris christie will say one thing and the media market, something else. >> the thing about the story, christie's got conservatives so much, he becomes the man the media covers who is always attacking rand paul, people in the party. republican voters don't like that. that's one thing h...