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Enthusiastic. generals in the pentagon were very much opposed to this. we can give you the levels of reporting and targets and you can knock them out but what's next down the road? mind you we don't have a permane permane permanent secretary of defense. and trump made a new nomination. but other high-ranking people at the pentagon said to take a break. and the president is not proud of his decision. telling people privately and his adviser felt like this was good brinks manship, he got to the right decision by pulling back but the question is the credibility issue. we've seen it with north kor...

One is a funding issue for more space. we had number three weeks ago said that this problem is starting to happen. now we have the stories of the reality. there was so much overcrowding and back log, we knew these children were not being cared for. but now we have the story, we realize it's not a funding issue, it's a management issue. it doesn't take an act of congress, it doesn't make an emergency spending bill in order to provide care and a toothbrush for children. >> julia, i want to ask you to take me through the reporting over the weekend. dhs reporting that those i.c.e. raids that the p...

There's overcrowding at i.c.e. charlie sykes, editor and chief and health and human services. at the bull wart. can you imagine we have to put both lucky for us msnbc 200,000 people in detention contributors. rick? before you deport them. >> i'm never against it when the logistics didn't add up on somebody changes their minds to do something i am for, ie, not this. >> before these logistics, these bombing iran. i think he made the right are people living here and decision. freewheeling is a generous children in things like camp description. he's fickle. instead of school. he has no core convic...

Drawing our attention to the you don't have to be a parent or tragedy unfurling on u.s. soil an american, just citizen of at the direction of the trump this world to be horrified by administration. those conditions. it's going to be a difficult we'll start with reporting in case for this white house to make that is an effective tactic "the new york times," quote, a chaotic scene of sickness and in their fight. >> jeremy bash, i have a filth is unfolding in an 7-year-old. overcrowded border station in but you don't have to be a clint, texas, where hundreds of young people who have recently 7-ye...

Steph? >> my goodness. all right. i want to bring my team in here. ken dilanian, who covers intelligence and national security for nbc news. rick tyler, a republican strategist and cofounder of foundry strategies. jason johnson, politics editor at theroot.com. josh gottheimer, a democratic congressman from my home state of new jersey. which means, sorry, guys, josh is getting all of the time this morning. and malcolm nance, executive editor of the terror asymmetrics project. ken, i've got to go to you. you wrote that nbc news article in january that said, cukushner article got dinged out of th...