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Citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about. >> i'm joined by mark former s adviser to senator mccain and one of the filmmakers of john mccain "for whom the bell tolls." mark, thank you for coming on. you must be so proud of john for that moment. >> i was there. it was quite a moment. but very. >> he was trying to win the presidency. that was not going to help him. >> he was. we were having a rough go after that. that was after lehman brothers. we were fighting hard to win. he lives by an honor code and that was an exam...

Basis of his personal style. he has departed in some cased from the truth and has attacked in a way that i think is not entirely appropriate. i believe his policies have been by and large a good deal better than i might have expected but some of the things he said are not ones that i would aspire for my grandkids to adopt. >> that was mitt romney an exclusive interview with nbc news saying he doesn't see our current president as a role model for his grandkids. a recent gallup poll shows republicans are much less likely to say it's very important for a president to provide moral leadership, jus...