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Terrorist attacks by kurds in turkey. but to paint the kurds with such a broad brush -- >> right. >> -- seems just myopic. it just seems unfair. >> it is. you think about like 13 million or 15 million kurds in turkey. iraq has around 6 and syria around 2. it's a big population, and there is an issue with the pkk, this terrorist group. and, you know, turkey has every right to defend itself against terrorist attacks. but the idea that we would actually supply -- stand with the kurds, who are not pkk to defeat isis and then for no reason pull out -- and by the way, 10,000 isis members are being h...

Chase every trump charge down a rabbit hole, but you can't let something take hold, and you've got to push back. and i think he's done that. i agree with david also that he has been late on impeachment. this should have come earlier. i would argue, though, that some of the candidates were too early on it. it's critical that the public doesn't see this as 1998 revisited, as a partisan act to punish the president and remove him, but as a constitutional act to keep him from doing more harm from the country. so i think the vice president was right on today. i just wish he'd done it a little bit ea...

Particular. a strategy of going after them and trying to intimidate them works when you're in a position of strength. his position is weakening day by day. so i don't know that that will work. you know, in 1998 with president clinton, we focused almost all of our efforts on democratic senators because that's -- you know, that's what protected us. but i completely agree with what david's saying. you know, the big difference between then and now is this president is consumed with it, and he's letting the public know he's consumed with it. he's not worried about the people. he's not worried about...

With the united states because they believe in us. they could easily have turned to iran. they could have easily turned anywhere else. they stood with the united states of america and because of a conversation with a basically dictator, president trump pulled 50 soldiers, 50 people back, and those 50 people were holding back a turkish attack. i'm sure every one of them were in tears when they heard this, these 50 special operators are watching this horrified as we all are. >> i think the point you make is an important one to point out -- we're talking about 50 u.s. service members, and i'm not...

Whistle-blower was in cahoots with anyone and the president offered none. as for the claim that the account of the call is radically different from the transcript, that's not true either. the very first words on it after ukrainian president zelensky inquires about aid, is president trump saying, i'd like you to do us a favor though, followed by pressure to investigate the bidens and a 2016 conspiracy theory. faced with evidence in the president's own words, on the president's own transcript that contradict what the president himself keeps saying, wouldn't a so-called adult in the room try to s...