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The one that shows your medicare and medicaid taxes, that stays the same under warren's plan. so would your federal income tax because warren's plan finds other ways to pay to put everyone on medicare. so that line also stays the same. why you hear her saying that your costs would go down. more health care, more paycheck. and a tax on bill theirs to pay for it all which may be why some people are not a fan. >> i've paid over 10 billion in taxes. paid more than anyone in taxes. but i -- you know, i'm glad to have, you know, if i'd had to pay 20 billion, it's fine. but you know when you say i sh...

The people you keep hearing hate obama care tend to be the individual bayers because their coverage is still expensive because the pool isn't as big as it could be since republicans fought the individual machindat. most importantly, healthier in order to get the cost down. but people who got medicaid, they tend to love obama care because before that, they were among the nearly 47 million people who had no insurance at all. a number of that's now down 27 million. and that's why obama care recipients tend to punish republican who is try to take it away. just ask matt bevin kentucky. here's a que...

Lower income people. medicare is is not just pop r lar. it's really efficient. instead of a bunch of risk pools, medicare takes all 43 million seniors and puts them into one big giant group where just one enter thety pays the hospitals and doctors and bills. uncle sam. that's the literal division of single payer. one payer pays. medicaid is is like 50 single payers since it's paid for by the federal government and states and the states determine a lot about what it will cover. so whether you live in a drat or republic one might determine whether you get great benefits. now if you think about o...

Transparency moved more of it back to the states. medicaid ought to be, let the states take care of it, give them their money back and let them see if they can't figure it out. but howard and i could figure that out. we've got a lot of states -- rhode island has done rel well on medicaid with an exception to a lot of the medicaid rules. there's two ways to do that. under the affordable care act a waiver and then 1015 waiver under medicaid, give the governors the opportunity and responsibility to fix it and let them figure it out. in their state if they want to do single payer, let them do it. ...

Lot of this nobody's willing to sit down and consider the other viewpoint? >> again, i think it's a leadership and a vision problem. i would disagree with dr. dean, governor dean, i think american people are smart. thick they know how to buy things. they just haven't had the opportunity since the '40s to figure out how to buy their healthcare. i think once you give them that -- the second thing is, sure, howard dean and in could sit down in a room and come out for those states medicaid dependent, we could figure out a way, if you wanted to keep that or what i would insist on, allow them to che...