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Ago. that is how i have detached myself from all of these assault cases. and it was clear to me as it has been in the previous criminal cases that there is no remorse on behalf of the defendants. >> what do you think about the sentence, 12, years is that sufficient? >> i thought it was appropriate. i mean, listen, i wear two hats, in these trials, i guess for lack of a better term, i am a victim, but i'm also a law enforcement officer, who has 20 years of experience in dealing with criminal cases, and i think that the 12 u.s. was appropriate. >> and as we just talked about, this got rodriguez ...

It's actually not an easy case to make that they actually help these players get a really large, unfair advantage. >> i would love to see the evidence. there's only one player that has been positively say it helped, and that is barry bonds who became a greater player after the age of 35 and for the rest of his career. but barry bonds was a lab rat for the most advanced lab in the country. these other guys, who knows what they're taking. do they even know what they're taking? now, you've got rodriguez now accused of taking hgh. human growth hormone. now, i hope somebody from the "new york post"...

To make that they actually help these players get a really large, unfair advantage. >> i would love to see the evidence. there's only one player that has been positively say it helped, and that is barry bonds who became a greater player after the age of 35 and for the rest of his career. but barry bonds was a lab rat for the most advanced lab in the country. these other guys, who knows what they're taking. do they even know what they're taking? now, you've got rodriguez now accused of taking hgh. human growth hormone. now, i hope somebody from the "new york post" picks this up. that is not a s...

Not everybody thinks so. joining me now is the sports columnist for theatlantic.com and also the author of the book "mickey and willie." you have this really thought provoking point, and one of the points you make, for all the talk of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs, it's actually not an easy case to make that they actually help these players get a really large, unfair advantage. >> i would love to see the evidence. there's only one player that has been positively say it helped, and that is barry bonds who became a greater player after the age of 35 and for the rest of his caree...