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For it, joan, but i do wonder. >> right. >> here's my question, something you sort of got to. i always felt bad about jerry ford dumping nelson rockefeller because nelson rockefeller, whatever party you're in, is certainly a public servant and a good one all those years as governor of new york and accepting the vice presidency, and to have him dumped in '76 just to sort of lighten the burden of jerry ford certainly didn't help jerry ford much. >> no. >> he got beaten. >> exactly, and i don't think -- i don't think it helps barack obama. i think that joe biden has been a good vice president. i ...

Reports that hillary clinton said this about her future plans, quote, i am looking forward to being out of public life, whether it's high level appointments like this or elected office. i have no interest in or no plans of any sort to pursue that any more than i am really looking forward to returning to private life. you don't have to give a shermanesque speech for the vice presidency because you can't run for it, joan, but i do wonder. >> right. >> here's my question, something you sort of got to. i always felt bad about jerry ford dumping nelson rockefeller because nelson rockefeller, whatev...

outright confusion. these are live pictures near moammar gadhafi's compound. there have been heavy battles raging around this building. carloads of people have been streaming out of the libyan capital. we want to bring in retired general james "spider" marks. if you could, tell us about what you are watching, what you are seeing. what do you make of the pictures? with the low level flying that is taking place, bombing gadhafi's compound? >> suzanne, what you see is obviously a representation of chaos and confusion on the ground. the fact that civilians are fleeing, coming out of trip...

Have anything to do with a debt reduction, that are simply idea logical. cutting entirely planned parenthood where a lot of women get their contraception, cutting entirely americore, all the good that americore volunteers do in school. so these things aren't budget issues that they're touching. they're idea logical issues. and so i would give them fewer points for seriousness right now. but this is a process that's going to go on for months. >> months and months, agreed. let's take a look at wisconsin and what's happening right there. governor walker says given the problems financially, he w...

The bills, is that likely to bring these senators back and get to some sort of a voting ultimatum here? >> the fascinating thing on this is that governor walker, who i think expected that he was going to have the people on his side has found that his support is ee rosing over time. you would think that the support of the democratic legislators who fled, that it would be their support that would be cratering. but that is not what is happening in terms of the polls. however, walker, who is having his big moment, he may not care that much about the polls. that's one of the things that makes it so...