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Press is it's a way of mass producing, writing and there is no point in mass producing writing unless you can also mass produce a writing surface and that's paper and if you try to use a printing press on animals or silk, you can do it technically it works, economically completely impossible. so paper was just a wonderful symbol for me of an invention that's very inexpensive and quite simple and disruptive, important because it's so inexpensive. >> another strange invention to my mind, why do you think it defined the modern world? >> the thing about the gramap gramaphone, it's a warning. the s...

There's no point in mass producing writing unless you can also mass produce a writing surface and that is paper. if you try to use a printing press on animal skin parchment or silk, technically it works but kplekly completely impossible. paper was a wonderful symbol for me of an invention that's very inexpensive and quite simple and it's disruptive and important because it's so inexpensive. >> the gram ophone, another strange invention. why do you think it defined the modern world? >> the thing is it's a lesson for us, there's a warning story here. obviously it's culturally important but the e...

It was an upside down world in this courthouse where you routinely expect lots of supporters for the victim, but there were none. >> there was no one who was -- the victim's assistance from the district attorney's office sat there with the whole trial because she had nothing to do. >> some people think this vicious father, the victim, deserved, got what was coming to him. >> people that normally wouldn't advocate homicide who say if he did it, then he did it, and his father deserved it. >> but the accused? his girlfriend and friends gathered outside the courtroom every morning surrounding him ...

Getting out of these wars. but for the president as the leader of a movement and the transformation of the republican party in america, words matter. this is what this white house has got to grasp. this just isn't about poll numbers or saying something or who got what. this president is leading a movement in america that's not going away. now, what happened this weekend, despicable and the president needs to completely disassociate from these people. you got to draw a line, don, in the sand. the line in the sand is human decency. if they're concerned about a 10,000 people in america that might...

>> that moment, to elect a new pope, but this time something was different. >> remember the conclaves, the secret affairs. you're not supposed to know who got what, but a cardinal who had taken part in that 2005 conclave later that year published a diary which gave a very detailed account of the voting and the numbers. >> some say it was no accident the diary came out. to show there was someone other than cardinal ratzinger getting support. cardinal jorge bergoglio. >> he was deeply alarmed by this and over lunch on the second day of the conclave said to the other cardinals, "no, do not vote f...