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Claiming in court filings that his pro bono work for the president is parts of a scheme to allow him to claim he's broke and can't afford alimony. yet on this recording, we heard him say the problem is we need more money. or we need some money. is it possible that he's got some legal issue with regard to hiding his income because of a divorce proceeding? >> that's interesting. there has been a question of whether rudy giuliani is really working for free, for the president, or if somebody else is paying him. this call talked about money. i'm not sure it revealed much more than him talking about...

>> you know, charles would have a hard time with a fraud cation because he didn't do any due diligence. tomorrow, i gotta get you to get on bahrain. you gotta call. you gotta call robert again tomorrow. is robert around? >> rob? he's in turkey. >> the problem is, we need the money. we need a few hundred thousand. >> the voice mails are drawing new scrutiny on giuliani on a time when he is under federal criminal investigation and accused of run agatha doe foreign policy in ukraine to dig up dirt on trump's political rival. giuliani is reportedly on the hunt for a defense attorney, as federal pr...

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Voicemail he received from that october 16 call. >> you know, charles, would have a hard time with a fraud case because he didn't do any due diligence. tomorrow i got to get you to get on bahrain. you gotta call. you got to call robert again tomorrow. is robert around? the problem is, we need some money. we need a few hundred thousand. >> jonathan, can you imagine being rick shapiro, who got this voice message and is listening to this and talking about money, we need it. talk about the context there, what can you tell us about about those remarks and do we know why giuliani says he needs money...