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Think that the doug jones campaign didn't treat black voters or entertain black voters only during the gotv get out of the vote effort. i think they spent an amount of time that was important around persuasion, just was it's a special election or you're a democrat, you can't necessarily take advantage of. so there was a lot of persuasion going on, on black radio and black print, et cetera. i believe the other thing was the gotv effort. whether it was text messaging, knocking on doors several times, et cetera if doug jones campaign spent a lot of the time with that gotv effort. not just in urba...

Mother's from dothan, alabama, is buried there. so i know relatives there that told me that they had a really gotv effort. is that the formula that you think the dnc ought to be dealing with national? you are now a rising star in the party nationally, whether you want to be or not. and you're the mayor of one of the biggest cities in the south. if the dnc officials are watching you right now, what lessons do you think they should take from what doug jones did in alabama? >> i think, tom, under his leadership, as well as the buyer dnc, has to embrace three things. the first thing they have to d...

>> women. women. women in alabama throughout america and even throughout the world have been toucheded, not by stars falling on alabama but it seems like a comet has fallen on alabama. but republican -- educated republican women are -- they are going to vote for the democrat in this case. i'm not going to say by how many, but i know it is happening. there is a massive democrat iic gotv effort. if dog jones wins, it's an unexpected victory. hooray, we've won. if roy moore wins, hooray, democrats have won again. as was said earlier, the republicans have to deal with roy moore for the next severa...