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From government transfer programs. >> since our conversation the unemployment rate in harlandropped to 10.1%. that is still one of the highest rates in the state, leaving coal with a complicated legacy. >> coal has done nothing but rape ravage and steal from harlan county. it has made made 10 people trillionairs and 10,000 eat up and die. i watch my father smother to death. i watch my father-in-law smother to death. i watched my father coal is not been good to me or harlan county. it paid me a wage it paid me a wage, and thank god for the union or i wouldn't be sitting here in the first place.

Tradeoff. >> absolutely. >> typically, at least the progressive response to that is you need to hold that safety net a little bit longer so people aren't struggling above the water but are kind of clearly above it. this is a response to take the net away altogether. >> more importantly, let's talk about even besides what it does to the safety net, which is draconian cuts that are not supported by the american people, let's look at what it doesn't do to do what is the biggest challenge of our time which is invest in recreating the middle class. the middle class didn't just create itself. lookin...