Problems, allysia is permitting, if you throw money at a project, can you get it done this decade or next decade because of all the rig bureaucratic rules you have to go through? >> right, that involves the safety, every new grade crossing or barrier, you have to do environmental impact statement too and it's add-on cost. paul: is amtrak to be privatized, is that a real prospect at all? [laughter] paul: but is that because of the politics or is that because it's actually impossible to do? >> well, i think it's a little bit of both. academy track is losing money. passenger service is not profit...