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Iranians. that's never happened before. so i think the president would do a lot better to talk in good faith and not be arrogant and above it all as if he's the font of all wisdom and he's the only one operating out of good intentions because a lot of people question his intentions. >> i know that's one of the big issues for you, the centrifuges. you have iran that basically they're cutting down on its centrifuges and not as technologically advanced so civil grade material. and they're cutting the uranium stockpiles by 97%. that's certainly not 100%. so you have this issue of the inspections t...

And get rid of the nuclear grade material, it is worth doing it. but leaving that aside, i think dana has a good point and the iranians should take advantage of that with the pastor. this other one, i'm not so sure -- >> you know one of the oldest -- it goes right by the book, don't negotiate with terrorists or kidnappers, you are negotiating with kidnapping terrorists. >> reagan negotiated with weapons and birthday cake and i think he thought there was an opportunity. and if there is an opportunity here, we ought to take it. >> well speaking of no opportunities. north korea, eric, kim jung un...

Fair description? you're a former head of the atf. >> crude to the extent there was nothing sophisticated about the bombs. pressure cooker bombs. in fact, a lot like pipe bombs except using a pressure cooker, packed with low grade explosive material, having some type of detonating device. something that can initiate the spark that low grade material, build up the gases and then cause the explosion. >> we have been talking a lot about the contradiction between last night's behavior and today, where they seem completely discombobulated and out of control, had no money, hijacked a car and how org...

had made its own nuclear fuel rods domestically for the first time. it was loading these into what it said was a reactor for medical purposes, not for nuclear weapons. but this is going to be watched very closely here in washington and in israel, of course, because the question is whether this development, this announcement of them being able to make their own nuclear fuel rods is actually the real deal. can they do it? do these fuel rods work? how good is the quality? is this another step potentially on iran's road to potentially making nuclear weapons? that's the key question for i...