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Putting a face to it. >> i understand and i said there is nothing wrong saying what she said. that was her persons examine. i said that quite clearly. however, this stuff does feed the victimization industry, the grievance industry it feeds it it and it gives people a reason to fail. >> i don't know about that. >> bill: of course it does. absolutely does. >> i'm still trying to get over the fact that there is a purse on sale for $38,000. i'm still stumbling over that right now. the fact of the matter is, oprah winfrey is worth $3 billion. she is a very smart woman but doesn't -- the point is i...

Putting a face to it. >> i understand and i said there is nothing wrong saying what she said. that was her persons examine. i said that quite clearly. however, this stuff does feed the victimization industry, the grievance industry it feeds it it and it gives people a reason to fail. >> i don't know about that. >> bill: of course it does. absolutely does. >> i'm still trying to get over the fact that there is a purse on sale for $38,000. i'm still stumbling over that right now. the fact of the matter is, oprah winfrey is worth $3 billion. she is a very smart woman but doesn't -- the point is i...

Promote racism she is putting a face to it. >> i understand and i said there is nothing wrong saying what she said. that was her persons examine. i said that quite clearly. however, this stuff does feed the victimization industry, the grievance industry it feeds it it and it gives people a reason to fail. >> i don't know about that. >> bill: of course it does. absolutely does. >> i'm still trying to get over the fact that there is a purse on sale for $38,000. i'm still stumbling over that right now. the fact of the matter is, oprah winfrey is worth $3 billion. she is a very smart woman but doe...