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Says if anything about his personality. i don't like all these -- >> i just want to drop some amateur specious -- >> that's what the show is. >> i'm going to drop some knowledge. doesn't it seem he would be effective, though, having gone through these experiences seeing his dad have that horrific, you know, verbal gaffe then his mom's campaign. >> talking about the vietnam war and getting brainwashed. >> that it would be ingrained in you, you need to be, if you're going to get into politics incredibly cautious and guarded and not say anything that would be used against you. >> why would you ke...

He's at a fund-raiser and it's just #awkward. >> yeah, that's basically a nutshell of obama's relationship with wall street. try to race money from them one minute, bash them publicly the next. that's the reason he lost the wide middle ground of democrats on wall street. he's never going to get that back. they despise him. it's not going to be a return of the 2008 campaign where he out-raised john mccain on wall street. he's going to have score support, there's hedge funders and private equity guys with obama. they get irritated when he shows up in their apartments, i'm going to say one thing ...

The limits of what you can do campaigns, the sort of cynicism that mitt romney i think know embodies or has embodied in his approach to politics, a lot of that comes from lenore. >> they talk about how devastating the loss was and the family really sort of circled the wagons and had to reassess what their friends were. essie, we were talking about this during the break. you seemed to draw to much from family histories -- >> we should want to know more about our political candidates. the amateur psychology around romney's upbringing and what it makes him today i find specious and weird. i don't...

Guy they can trust, do the right thing. >> doesn't that also put him in a uniquely sort of agile position to be able to attack gop and establishment republi n republicans if he doesn't like what hay do and sort of look like an outsider? >> he's never taken that tact. >> he's never done it. >> he could. i think you're right, the issues whether the debt ceiling, the automatic spending cuts and the fiscal cliff that's all coming in the lame duck, he'll be around for all of this and people will be putting a microphone in front of his face every time these -- >> the question is, what happens -- >> ...

With both congress and the fbi and shows why these investigations sometimes take a long time because these negotiations are complicated even before you get any testimony from the witness. >> to your earlier point, this would be negotiated with the fbi, the house and the senate all at once or as what happened with oliver north, could the senate grant him immunity to testify and not others? >> right. in part as a result of the north case, the occasicongressional committees and justice department try to coordinate their efforts. they don't have these confli conflicting situations much anymore. as...