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Are there were reports the president asked the director of national intelligence, dan coates, he them it was about the russians. he criticized jeff sessions for his part in the russian investigate. he discussed with it his lawyers, his power the grant pardons and his legal team combing through, looking for conflicts of interest. i'm sorry. it looks like he doesn't want to us get to the truth about his contacts with the russians. the old money trail, follow money, the woodward bernstein thing. he wants to kill this investigation and i'm going to say at the end of the show. this is my judgment. ...

This office and is and how the clarence aaron's case came to be under your review. >> i think everybody knows, under the constitution, the president has the opportunity to grant pardons and commutations for offenses against the united states. as a practical matter, given the large number of cases that get filed and the small size of the president's staff, he has to farm that out to somebody else to do investigative leg work. the president doesn't have the resources or time to do that part himself, for more than 100 years, that office has been the office of the pardon attorney which is part of ...

Administration to grant clemency, grant pardons -- what do you make of this part of the president's goals? >> it will go into the books for a lot of people as another example of him ignoring the norms of presidential behavior. there is a process i which pardons are supposed to be gathered and processed and examined and recommendations made to the president. the president has to be sure sweeping authority to grant pardons. the purpose of all of those processes is to make it easy for him and to protect him from making a mistake, from pardoning somebody who doesn't deserve it who will then turn t...

Correspondent kristen welker. kristen to you, pardoning himself. s no pcedent fthat are they still claiming he has these unlimited, extraordinary powers? >> reporter: overnight the president's attorney, rudy giuliani, reiterated he believes the president does have the power to pardon himself although rudy giuliani stressed the president has no plans to do it bauds it would amouno political suicide. the reason he's making that argument because the constitution doesn't say he doesn't have the power. it's a theory that's never been tested because a president never tried to pardon himself and a lo...